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Did Karma come for Kenya this season? Or was that just Courtney?
In this episode, we discuss Kenya Moore storylines from Real Housewives of Atlanta Season 15:
- Kenya vs…Sheree
- Kenya vs…Courtney
- Kenya vs…Health
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Sharon: Kenya Moore hair care. Kenya Moore hair care. Kenya Moore hair care.
Caitlin: Do you think she’ll send us some samples? Because we did that.
Sharon: Yes.
Sharon: my daughter has really my daughter has thick, coarse tangly hair.
Caitlin: So she could use some products.
Sharon: She could use some product.
Caitlin: Hi, this is Caitlin,
Sharon: and this is Sharon.
Caitlin: And welcome to Real Housewives on Real Housewives, where we unravel housewives story threads and keep the tea flowing.
Sharon: So, chic.
Caitlin: Hold on to your peaches.
Sharon: This week, we’re digging into Kenya Moore hair care from Real Housewives at Season 15.
Caitlin: I love that. Kenya has been on Atlanta since the fifth season
Caitlin: All right, this is our first Atlanta episode ever and, first of the Season 15. So our verses this week for Kenya are Kenya versus Charay, kenya versus Courtney, and Kenya versus health. So there’s a few categories that go under that one. The, background information on Kenya is that she has been on Atlanta since the fifth season. She was in Miss USA in 1993. she’s been an actress and is currently a businesswoman with Kenya.
Sharon: More hair care.
Caitlin: That’s right. She has a daughter, Brooklyn, who’s adorable and cheats toward the camera.
Sharon: She is adorable. I think it said she was four, which is how old my girls are.
Sharon: True.
Caitlin: They can play together.
Sharon: Yeah. She seemed like she was very more.
Caitlin: Mature than a well spoken yeah.
Caitlin: She’s cute. Kenya claims Martell Holt slid into her DMs six months ago
Caitlin: All right, let’s launch into Kenya versus, you know, sheree’s the housewife who’s kind of come and gone and come and gone from the franchise and she’s back in full force. And this season she meets her boyfriend, Martell Holt. I guess Holt and his now ex wife, Melody Holt run love and marriage. Huntsville. That’s not something I’ve ever watched.
Sharon: Is that a bravo show?
Caitlin: think it was. I want to say it’s USA. I looked it up once and now I don’t remember.
Sharon: But it’s not has reality show.
Caitlin: I didn’t realize that either. That’s why, as I said it, I thought maybe that’s not true. So I don’t know if that’s not true, you can tell us on our social media.
Sharon: So do you think he’s a clout chaser?
Caitlin: Yeah.
Sharon: I don’t know.
Caitlin: I mean, I just sort of feel like he is, I’m not saying that sheree is not someone who should be wanted or I don’t know. Okay. I do think that sometimes it’s like in that world of reality TV that other reality stars kind of reach out to other reality stars because they understand each other’s worlds or they see each other at events.
Sharon: I can totally see that.
Caitlin: But it is a little weird because they’re from different towns and he just sort of felt like everyone’s made it sound like he has such a playboy background.
Sharon: I don’t know.
Sharon: It doesn’t seem like anyone really felt like they had a true, genuine, connection.
Caitlin: Connection with him.
Sharon: Yeah.
Caitlin: so he tried to have a connection with Kenya, apparently. And she claims it was like, more than six months ago that Martell slid into her DMs, and she never accepted it. So when she’s, like, there with the other girls, candy and I forgot who else was there, but she opens up the DM. So then she brings this up at Sanya’s 40th birthday party for Ross, and Charay and Martell are there. Okay, so say that you were dating somebody and you found out that they’d slipped into somebody else’s DMs before you dated them. Now this is something like, we never even had to worry about dating. Had to worry about, like, hot or not, or like, maybe where you were on someone’s MySpace, but that’s about it. would it bother you that someone had slipped into someone else’s DMs?
Sharon: No, I wouldn’t bother. I would consider that, like, sitting maybe on AOL Instant Messenger for us.
Caitlin: Exactly. Also, it’s kind of a private thing, so it’s like I don’t know why she even had to mention it, because I don’t think there was any way Sharia was going to find out. And they didn’t go on a date. She didn’t even open the DM. They didn’t talk to each other. Just because he sent something to her and it looked pretty low key, what he sent. And then Candy’s like, well, he could have erased because I think it had been erased or something. Yeah, she said, but again, I just don’t care. I think it’s really who.
Sharon: Like, it’s a total nothing burger.
Caitlin: I think it’s a complete exactly. So I think one of the reasons the women are worried about it is that last season, charade had this bad boyfriend who was in jail. He stood her up and it was like this really sad episode where she just sort of, like, sat in this outside cafe and then the producers were like, he’s not coming. It was really sad. So I do think the women are standing up for her.
Caitlin: But like, sheree said, to, like, only tell me if you have all the receipts.
Sharon: I liked it when she said that I liked it how she put it. You better show me proof.
Sharon: Exactly.
Sharon: Otherwise I don’t feel like listening to this.
Caitlin: Yes, and I think it’s like you said, there just wasn’t any proof.
Sharon: And I like that it was more than six months ago. Well, technically, like, ten years. It’s more than six months ago.
Caitlin: You know what I mean? Funny, fun fact my children were born. That’s why I’m still working on my post, maternity. It was just like, more than six months ago.
Sharon: I was hot. More than six months ago?
Caitlin: M. How long ago was that? Yeah, more than six months ago, I said. That the thing I don’t like here. And Kenya has this sort of history of doing this with people. She’ll say that they’re really aggressive. Like, she kept saying, like, OOH, you’re aggressive. OOH, I’m scared of you. Yeah, I don’t know what that’s about with her.
Sharon: I thought that I couldn’t believe she said that. He got slightly mad and irritated, but it was definitely one of those things. I know you and I have talked about this before where people say, stop yelling when you’re like, I am not yelling. You want to hear me yell?
Caitlin: I will yell. Yes.
Sharon: It’s oh, gosh, it drives me crazy.
Caitlin: And I guess it’s sort of interesting in a way to see a woman throw that back on a man, kind of because I feel like it’s often like you said, women are often like, stop yelling. Men are like, don’t yell. And you’re like, I’m just upset. Like, I’m not yelling. You just don’t like that I’m mad at you. And so I guess it’s sort of interesting to see the flip side of that. Yeah, he did, but I disagree.
Sharon: He was just upset. I did not see that.
Caitlin: He was kind of attacked at a party. He thought he was just going to go and celebrate, party and have drinks, and instead someone’s throwing a DM at him that a he probably doesn’t even remember. and like, it doesn’t really matter.
Sharon: So he was the one being attacked. He was on the defensive.
Caitlin: Right. Kenya thinks Martel’s DM was a ploy for attention
Caitlin: And Kenya says, like, it’s the same behavior as her ex husband, Bob. not Kenya’s, but Sharia’s ex husband. Do you think that Kenya is just looking out for her friend here?
Sharon: no, I thought it was a ploy for attention.
Caitlin: I think so want I think I want really badly to think that what she’s doing is coming from a place of like, let me protect you and you’ve had these bad relationships. But I don’t think that’s what this is.
Sharon: But see, she didn’t even put it in any terms, though, of he sent this to me. Like he was looking for any women just to do anything with. He just sent her a message. For all we know, it could have yeah, I like, I think that we.
Caitlin: Saw said something like, thanks for the kind response or something. And again, it’s like sometimes people do just sometimes DMs are responding to stories on Instagram or just like innocent things where you’re just trying to drum up your own followership. Follow ship is that a word?
Sharon: Followership.
Caitlin: Followership.
Sharon: I don’t know.
Caitlin: We don’t have a good that’s why.
Sharon: We should have followers.
Caitlin: We don’t know what they’re called.
Sharon: We can’t have them until we know.
Caitlin: What they’re I’m going to look it.
Sharon: Up so we can get them. But, yeah, if she had gone to her and said, he sent this to me, and I’ve heard he’s a player and this and that, and so.
Caitlin: She just kind of said that. And then she was like, well, and I’ve heard he’s messing around with other women in Atlanta. And again, like, there’s no receipts.
Sharon: Yeah.
Caitlin: And so you could even just say, I have a bad vibe. But that’s not going to again, people have to learn on their own. That’s not going to help anything until you have something. Like, sheree said Martel felt ambushed, and I think that’s exactly what happened. And I don’t really like him. I mean, he gives me a bad vibe. I’ll be like I’ll be don’t. There’s something about him I find a little I so I kind of understand what Kenya is saying, but again, you can’t just say to someone, like, I don’t like that guy’s date. Yeah, you can.
Sharon: But it’s better than making up a I guess he sent me a DM when that’s, like, technically nothing.
Caitlin: He’s just like, true.
Sharon: I don’t really have a just get he did DM me. Nothing really bad, but I just think I need better.
Caitlin: Instead of saying, like, well, I felt this was important that you know about at this party, while the cameras are there, messaged me. Exactly. sheree asked Kenny why she didn’t tell her before the party. And see, that’s a thing that I totally I would agree with, too. It’s like, we’ve seen this in other situations where it’s like, come to the person one on one. You can still do it on camera, but why do it in the middle of a party when someone shows up and maybe talk to her without Martell there? Like, if you think Martel is aggressive and you think he’s a problem, why are you doing it to his face? I mean, maybe she was being aggressive because she wanted him to snap act out, and then she could be like, told you so.
Sharon: Yeah.
Caitlin: Like, maybe she was pushing his buttons.
Sharon: Maybe. Yeah.
Caitlin: I kind of think that now that I’m saying that, I just think she.
Sharon: Wanted the attention on her.
Caitlin: Yeah.
Sharon: Oh, he wanted me.
Caitlin: But he used to want exactly. I don’t know. But what’s interesting is then that comes up later, because, Marlo had DMs from know current boyfriend Roy, and then she thought that was not funny at.
Sharon: All, and they had actually gone on a lunch date.
Caitlin: They went on a date? Yeah. And it’s like, all of a sudden, that was, like, so rude of Marlo to bring it up, and it’s like, dude, you did the same thing, like, four episodes. Yeah, I do think that’s really interesting. And then they try to make peace of the sip and see her glam.
Sharon: Which I had to ask
Caitlin.
Caitlin: I was like, what is a sip?
Sharon: And all I can think of is, at Circle K, the gas station, they have sip and sip and save, and it’s like a membership where every day.
Caitlin: You can get a soda.
Sharon: So the soda we have right here, right now, that’s courtesy.
Caitlin: I bet Lisa Barlow is on a sip and save.
Sharon: She probably is. They must have circles.
Caitlin: I guess it was just a glamour, but I felt like the parent from what we were shown, I felt like the parents weren’t really the reason Charay was. And that was a little OD for me. I think you should be totally proud to be a grandma for the first time. Yeah, but it was an OD party.
Sharon: It was.
Caitlin: So, I think that I guess they sort of made a peace with it, kenya coming out of it, but it wasn’t a great apology. And then he kind of apologized to her. Again, nobody’s apology was really great at that party because nobody really did anything except for maybe Kenya.
Sharon: Yeah. Well, I don’t think he needs to.
Caitlin: Apologize, but she wanted him to. Kenya said she likes Martel, but she likes herself more
Caitlin: And you could tell that she was.
Sharon: Like, apologize to me.
Caitlin: Of course she did.
Sharon: Yeah.
Caitlin: But then we learned at the reunion that she’s not with Martel. She said she likes him, but she likes herself more.
Sharon: Yeah, I like that. I guess he really is a player.
Caitlin: He was a lot of noise.
Sharon: Yeah, that was an interesting take. I was like, so that means yeah.
Caitlin: And she did kind of compare him to her ex. So she was kind of think, here’s what’s sad about this. I feel like Kenny did the wrong thing, but she wasn’t exactly yes.
Sharon: So Kenya probably feels a bit vindicated.
Caitlin: Exactly. So it’s like, who.
Sharon: I guess Kenya.
Caitlin: Yeah. I mean, she kind of she kind of proved her point.
Sharon: And Martell looks bad in the end.
Caitlin: She by sheree. Martell is not wearing that anymore.
Sharon: Do you think he got any free shirts or anything? She probably took a bath, but then.
Caitlin: I think she was like, dude, I have a very limited quantity. I’m going to send that back. The girls are going to steam it, and we’re going to ship it. Can you get that a discount? If it’s one that he wore, could we get that one cheaper?
Sharon: He probably will sign it and try to sell it for more.
Sharon: Oh, he probably will.
Caitlin: He’s probably on ebay, right?
Sharon: Yeah. Let’s do Kenya versus, um, our personal favorite person from the Atlanta season
Caitlin: All right, let’s do Kenya versus, our personal favorite person from the Atlanta season, miss Courtney. Oh, my gosh. I think we’re going to do our own episode on.
Sharon: We are.
Caitlin: Because she has so much hey. I don’t like her. I feel like her accent is like the sort of breathy Valley girl, and I’ve been working on it.
Sharon: And I’m not Valley Girl esque, but.
Caitlin: Yeah, listen to the episode. We’ll try to we’ll try our Courtney.
Sharon: Accents, and every time she sees someone, she like, dances kind of yeah, we’re both doing it.
Caitlin: It’s awkward. Just as awkward than Courtney does it. Courtney thinks Kenya slipped on the wet banana floor on The Bachelor
Caitlin: Okay, so Courtney, as relates to Kenya I mean, Courtney relates to so much more drama this season, but as she relates to Kenya, they’re in Portugal. And Kenya slips. She doesn’t see the wet banana floor sign, but I love that it was a banana.
Sharon: It was like, you know, those orange cones type. It was like that, but it was yellow and a banana peel.
Caitlin: Get on that companies in America, because that is amazing. And it tells you what’s going to happen.
Sharon: Yeah.
Caitlin: Like, you know, you should be stepping where the banana is. But apparently Kenya didn’t know that, so she slipped on the wet banana floor.
Sharon: And this is what upset me. You could see the floor. There was that shiny tile.
Caitlin: It was it was like a mirror reflection tile.
Sharon: Okay.
Sharon: When Thomas and I were in Hawaii this past year, our hotel had that shiny, shiny tile and that we were in Hilo where it rains all the time and it would get so slick and slippery. And I didn’t understand why that’s what they chose. And they would put down mats and stuff. And I almost slipped several times.
Caitlin: I was like, surely the hotel put.
Sharon: Down is going to get sued at.
Caitlin: Some point for that is not the appropriate floor.
Sharon: Not for water.
Caitlin: I mean, it’s like, maybe they think they’re going to be on The Bachelor and they need to have that know but you can get that with water. We know that.
Sharon: I know.
Caitlin: Don’t do it.
Sharon: Yeah.
Sharon: And then you add water and you die.
Sharon: Exactly.
Caitlin: It’s dangerous. So Kenya comes out, slips on the wet banana floor.
Sharon: And that looked painful.
Caitlin: It looked really painful. We were both just like and then she ends up leaving in an ambulance with candy. And so they are inside, and Drew’s talking to Courtney, and Courtney says, this is karma saying that Kenya essentially deserved it. Do you think it’s karma?
Sharon: See, I don’t get what she thinks.
Caitlin: She deserved it for. Here’s also what I think.
Sharon: What does she deserve it for?
Caitlin: Karma is not the thing where I think she just thinks she’s, like a mean, nasty person. So, like, bad vibes equals bad vibes. But here’s the thing about karma. I think karma is like a personal thing. I don’t think someone can judge you and say you deserve a certain karma is not like for your friends to hand out as a judgment. I feel like karma is like, it’s your karma. It’s not like you’re like, oh, that person is bad. I don’t think you get to judge other people’s.
Sharon: Karma interesting. So you’re saying you can’t acknowledge that a person does something bad and bad things happen to them, though, and that’s bad karma.
Caitlin: But I think you don’t say, like, that’s karma.
Sharon: How come?
Caitlin: Because it m was really.
Sharon: Mean.
Sharon: Well, I think you can’t necessarily I don’t know. I guess I’m all if someone does something mean and then something bad happens.
Caitlin: To them, eye for an eye.
Sharon: I’m going to straight up be like.
Sharon: Black eye for eye.
Caitlin: That’s karma.
Sharon: Sorry.
Caitlin: That’s karma.
Sharon: All right.
Caitlin: Well, then I guess that’s what Courtney did. But I guess she did it in such a mean way that it wasn’t cool. And maybe you wait and make sure somebody’s okay first. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Because I think it’s bad. Kenya says she might have never walked again if she hadn’t fallen
Caitlin: Okay, here’s where it is. But it also is bad karma on you for pointing out someone else’s bad karma.
Sharon: I agree. And I also think she should have waited till she was and because, like.
Caitlin: Kenya said, she might have never walked again. I don’t think the incident was that bad.
Sharon: And she could have also kept it in her head. I don’t know if I would have.
Caitlin: Said, don’t go saying it to Drew in the lobby of the hotel right after it happened. On camera.
Sharon: Yeah.
Caitlin: After she for everyone to see.
Sharon: And I think that’s a weird karma. Like, maybe if she had pushed someone.
Sharon: Right.
Sharon: It’s like a different kind of yeah.
Caitlin: Like you’re saying it’s like someone falling on a tile doesn’t necessarily match someone not being nice to someone else. I think.
Sharon: Yeah.
Caitlin: Maybe karma is more like but I.
Sharon: Guess we don’t know how karma but.
Caitlin: Maybe it’s more like it matches the thing. You did this and then that happened. That’s more irony, I guess. I don’t know. It’s a whole thing we should have looked up. Like the actual I just try to be good.
Sharon: Exactly.
Caitlin: So no, I still think you shouldn’t say it about other people. I don’t think that helps your own personal karma. I don’t know. Courtney explained it as, like, it was.
Sharon: Cause and effect, which really makes sense.
Caitlin: It is not exactly what karma is.
Sharon: The cause was the slippery floor.
Caitlin: Exactly. Maybe it’s the hotel’s karma.
Sharon: Yeah.
Caitlin: Like but I’m not sure.
Sharon: Yeah, they’re like shirts. The country of Portugal spent all this money to advertise, and they couldn’t put.
Caitlin: Down a M mat. They put that banana out there, and they thought that was enough. But it wasn’t enough, guys, because
Caitlin.
Sharon: And I were like, oh, we can’t go to Portugal after, like, true Crime, the Madeline McCann case. And the only things we’ve seen about Portugal are about the case.
Sharon: I know. And I feel bad.
Caitlin: I feel like Portugal is trying yeah. They’re, like, trying to clear their names.
Sharon: Yeah.
Caitlin: They’re like, hey, guys, we’re not just terrible cases. We’re also where people fall.
Sharon: Down.
Sharon: You can come to the hospital.
Caitlin: Which Candy did not give a rave review of either. She said it was kind of like zombies and like The Walking Dead or something, which was also kind of terrifying. So really, I do feel a little bit bad for Portugal because they didn’t make it out great. The weather wasn’t good.
Sharon: Okay.
Caitlin: I like I mean, we love we love it.
Sharon: But they didn’t like objectively, it wasn’t good.
Caitlin: And it was a lot of,
Sharon: I don’t like seafood. I don’t like shrimp.
Caitlin: I don’t like yeah, I would have been okay with some of that, but not like that. I’m not a big calamari squid octopus person. And then it’s like they had the Pilgrims dancing.
Sharon: Yeah. What?
Caitlin: They weren’t pilgrims.
Sharon: Like, none of that looked ah, okay.
Caitlin: It was very disjointed. They didn’t explain the Portuguese activities very well.
Sharon: And that, like, sound bath thing was so bachelor activity.
Caitlin: I’d blocked the soundbath.
Sharon: That was all bachelor. Yeah, that was I wasn’t a fan of this trip.
Caitlin: No, it wasn’t. There was nothing about it. That really because usually almost always I watch a trip and I want to go there.
Sharon: Exactly.
Sharon: Yeah.
Caitlin: I didn’t and I don’t think it was just her falling, but just in general. And that wine wasn’t green. I mean, that was upsetting. Everyone wanted the wine to be green. I mean, there was just a lot of letdowns on this trip. Bad karma, Portugal for not falling. They’re going to have to invite somebody else there who’s got better karma
Sharon: Bad karma, Portugal for not falling.
Caitlin: Get that Madeline McCann thing wrapped up and then people will stop falling at your all right, well, who wins in this, do you think?
Sharon: Karma?
Sharon: I don’t know. Karma always wins in the end, I think.
Sharon: Yeah.
Caitlin: let’s just say that because I don’t think either Courtney won and we just kind of proved that it wasn’t great for Portugal. They’re going to have to invite somebody else there who’s got better karma. Kenya went in the ambulance in Portugal and then again in Birmingham
Caitlin: All right, let’s talk about Kenya versus her health, because that kind of segues neatly into that. So she’s had two ambulance rides this.
Sharon: Season, which she does acknowledge. She’s like, I’ve only been to the hospital once in my life, and now in the past two months, I’ve been which is always how it happens. I’ve had that happen with my kids. I have never been to the yard.
Caitlin: And then I had to take exactly one time.
Sharon: I had to take, like, one kid one day, one kid the next day.
Caitlin: lot with like, wait, I don’t want to do this all at yeah. So she ended up going in the ambulance in Portugal and then again in Birmingham. They were there for the Magic City Classic, which was supposed to be like this really cool marching band thing and dancing. That went together with her hair care. See, we should totally be paid to promo that. so she invites everyone to Birmingham.
Sharon: But she doesn’t tell them she’s going to rep. So they don’t really know why they’re going.
Caitlin: Right, right.
Sharon: They just think they’re going for the.
Caitlin: And, you know, to be fair, it’s like the whole idea of that know Kenya Moore haircare. She was stealing Marla’s limelight when she walked in with the band. She totally ruined her party by doing that. So then probably Marla was a little pissed going into it based on the fact that she’s now become famous from this event that should have, like, been, you know and someoneetta is going to choreograph.
Sharon: But yeah.
Caitlin: What do you think she doesn’t tell them? Why they’re I don’t understand.
Sharon: So I was confused when I was watching this because at first I didn’t realize that. And then I realized they didn’t know. Did they know that they were waiting for something?
Caitlin: I think they knew they were waiting for something.
Sharon: Or were they just like, Why are we here?
Caitlin: I think maybe they just thought they were going to the football game. Which, again, I guess I don’t understand why you wouldn’t think if that’s what you’re there to do, that’s what you’re there to film and do. I don’t know why everyone is so I feel like somebody dropped a hint about something that we didn’t really see.
Sharon: Or because they felt like Kenya kept leaving or not being part of.
Sharon: Exactly.
Caitlin: And maybe like, when they were doing the dancing, they were like, they were suspicious about it. But then again, if she’s not going to tell you, just go and be surprised. Maybe there’s a reason she wanted you to be surprised. But also, I don’t think there was a good reason for her just tell people. I think she’s m doing the halftime show.
Sharon: Well, she should have at least said, I have a surprise for you guys.
Sharon: Yeah.
Caitlin: In the middle of the football game, or I have a surprise. Yeah, the football game’s going to be really fun.
Sharon: Yeah.
Caitlin: I think it was an OD way to drum up support that ended up completely backfiring. Marlo ends up kicking the door at Kenya’s hotel room
Caitlin: so then one of the reasons they were upset about it and Marlo ends up kicking the door at Kenya’s hotel room. Brooklyn sleeping inside, the nannies in there. How do we feel about that?
Sharon: I don’t even remember why she kicked the door. Because they were mad that Kenya had.
Caitlin: Kenya to come out. And I think they were drinking and they know she’s got her kids.
Sharon: It wasn’t appropriate. They kicked the door. But ah, I really didn’t think it was that big a deal.
Caitlin: Yeah, I think the reason it becomes a big deal is that later Mark uses, Kenya’s ex husband in one of the divorce issues. It’s just taking them forever to get divorced and work out the childcare thing. And I think he uses it to say, like, oh, Brooklyn shouldn’t be on the show. It’s a really unsafe environment, which so.
Sharon: The lady kicked the door.
Caitlin: Yeah, exactly. It’s not that it’s not that big of a deal. But again, don’t do that. It’s rude.
Sharon: Okay.
Sharon: When I’m at a hotel and it’s night, I’m always so scared to be too loud in there.
Caitlin: I thought you got in trouble for being loud.
Sharon: Don’t go kick the door. I wouldn’t kick the door.
Sharon: It’s just not cool.
Caitlin: I agree. but then at the same time, I don’t think kicking her friends out of the event for it was cool either. Because then she said, well, if you’re not my friend, go home.
Caitlin: Which Sonia takes super seriously and packs up and gets out of there. But I probably would have been the same. Like, if someone yelled at me and I was in trouble, I’d probably be up there packing my bags, too.
Sharon: I don’t know.
Caitlin: Would you have left or would you have just stayed there?
Sharon: It’s late at night.
Caitlin: Yeah, I mean, I guess I might have waited till the morning.
Sharon: To the morning. Because if they’re at least providing, like.
Caitlin: Coffee, if I had a flight, I.
Sharon: Might have gotten out of there.
Sharon: Oh, did they fly?
Caitlin: They went in a sprinter van. I know, but she must have taken a flight to get out of there, do you think?
Sharon: I don’t know.
Caitlin: I don’t know. I forget how far Birmingham is from Atlanta.
Sharon: Know?
Caitlin: I don’t know. So Kenya gets sick. This is the whole ambulance ride thing. she just recovered from yeah, at first when people were kind of like when Marlo was like, oh, she was just there for a few seconds. But, no, she’d had COVID and we don’t always understand what that and, like, she had numbness, which is scary. She couldn’t breathe.
Sharon: she did.
Sharon: She looked even you were like, man, she doesn’t look she did not look she looks like she gray. And she did not look good.
Caitlin: She looked really pale. so, I mean, I think she absolutely should have had that checked out. I feel bad for her that she didn’t get to do the halftime show, though. Yeah.
Sharon: I’m glad we didn’t have to watch it.
Caitlin: I am glad. No, I take it back because I did marching band in high school and to watch it. Yeah, I would have been all for the Kenya Moore Hair care marching band. I think they should bring it to BravoCon, but whatever. Just an idea.
Sharon: Maybe they will.
Caitlin: It later online, but of course, that’s you’re trying to make this big dramatic point and then it’s like blank. Or you’re like, this is actually a recipe.
Sharon: Oops. Kenya confronts the idea of having a second baby on this season
Caitlin: so then the second ambulance we already talked about was Portugal.
Caitlin: So the other health issue that Kenya deals with this season is the idea of having a second baby. Now, what I think is really interesting about this is that she had embryos that were frozen. And I guess when they filled out the paperwork, they could only put one person as the owner, to which she is the owner. the baby is the embryos are still part her ex husband, Mark’s, and she’s like, well, I don’t really have to get his permission to use them.
Sharon: I don’t know.
Caitlin: How do we feel about that?
Sharon: I don’t know. It’s really strange. That’s just one of these new frontiers. It is. I mean, I guess that’s why they make it. So one person owns them. So you don’t have this fight down the road. But I guess I don’t know.
Caitlin: I see both views. I do too.
Sharon: He already agreed to make it.
Caitlin: Exactly. And he has another kid with her.
Sharon: Yeah.
Sharon: And he’s like, if he already
Caitlin: But I feel like I don’t think they’re in this contemptuous divorce. They’re fighting over Brooklyn and all of that. So do you really want to bring another kid that he’d fight over? And you could say, like, oh, I’m not asking anything, but like you said.
Sharon: He already has a kid with her. He has a kid. He’s not going to hang out with Donut and just ignore the other kid when also his kid and he’s already there.
Caitlin: It’s not like you’re like, well, you’re the kid.
Sharon: I agree.
Caitlin: And even though you’re actually also 100% my child as much as that one is. Yeah. but we don’t have a relationship that would be so traumatic for them.
Sharon: I actually think I feel bad for him because I kind of feel like.
Caitlin: Yeah, I think he maybe you should.
Sharon: Only get to use them more together.
Caitlin: I know.
Sharon: I don’t know, because I guess I feel like on some vein, if she couldn’t do it because of him right. And she had to do the embryos and the eggs and she had to wait because of him, then she should get to do it.
Sharon: Yes.
Sharon: But if she just couldn’t do it then and she just wanted maybe now he’s not there. He doesn’t want a kid anymore, maybe she shouldn’t be able to.
Sharon: Yeah.
Caitlin: and from a perspective of women’s rights, I’m happy to know that the woman gets the control and the choice of this, because there’s so many instances in which we do not get the control of our body and our choice. But I just think the way her situation is, she needs to ask him. He’ll probably say no. And even if he says yes, do you really want to be. I think it’s such a mess. I just think their relationship is such a mess. There might be some exes to where it could be a thing that worked. Yeah, I don’t think it would for them. I think it would create even more problems. and I think she knows that, but at the same time, she’s like, I have the embryos and it would be a full sibling to my child. I can completely see her dilemma, but I don’t.
Sharon: We’ve seen this on a few shows, haven’t we, where they’re like, we have so many embryos.
Caitlin: I know people talk about it a lot and what do they do with them? And do they just keep them?
Sharon: I read some article once about what happens when people ban on them. Stop paying the storage fees and stuff. And what are the places that storm supposed to do?
Caitlin: What are they supposed to do?
Sharon: I don’t know.
Caitlin: It’s weird. It is weird.
Sharon: It is.
Caitlin: It’s weird. Kenny asked her doctor if she can have another baby. I mean, here’s the other thing. It’s like, she would have to do a surrogate because her doctor says it was the scariest delivery. She’d had it in 30 years. It was like a C section that should have been 20 minutes. That took two and a half hours.
Sharon: Yeah, she almost died.
Caitlin: But I understand what she was saying, where she was just saying her whole pregnancy with Brooklyn was so health wise, so difficult, that she just never got to enjoy it. She was nervous the whole time. And I remember moments where I was like, I wished I’d enjoyed my pregnancy more, but I spent it worrying because I had to go see a specialist. M, and so you do sort of lose that joy of being pregnant. And so I understand what she’s saying. she talks to Candy and Shamia because they use the same surrogate. And that would be the route I think she should do if she was going to use the embryos. But I think so she mentions that the reunion adopting.
Sharon: Absolutely.
Caitlin: Because I think there’s so many kids that need to be adopted. And you’re walking into such a scary situation with using the embryos.
Sharon: Yeah.
Caitlin: And she kind of said maybe she’d adopt a three or four year old so that she didn’t have to do the baby stuff. I’m all for that.
Sharon: Sounds good.
Caitlin: Skip. Kenya needs to stop falling and getting sick, she says
Sharon: Ahead.
Caitlin: so, yeah, I guess who wins on that? Obviously, there’s not really a who wins in the baby shield. Yeah, exactly. That baby wins. And honestly, she needs to stop falling and getting sick and hauling ambulances. I feel bad. I’m hoping next year she has a better health. Like, she m maybe really did need that IV, that.
Sharon: Vitamin.
Caitlin: Maybe Kenya.
Sharon: Did. Kenya says the season of Atlanta lacked excitement this year
Caitlin: all right, so that’s all the drama for, Kenya this season again, I think the season of Atlanta is interesting. I know there’s talks about them possibly redoing the cast like they did with New York. I don’t know quite how I feel about it, but the season was different, The level of excitement in it just it was lacking a little bit.
Sharon: Yeah.
Sharon: And Candy did seem sort of she was absent more.
Caitlin: Something does need to refresh, Like they just have kind of tried to carry on and change the cast and they just haven’t found the right balance yet. It was an enjoyable season, but it wasn’t like an outstanding, stellar, super exciting.
Sharon: Yeah, it was enjoyable to watch. I like just watching it, but I really don’t feel that there’s as much to discuss about.
Caitlin: I think that’s what it is. I like all the people for the most part, but together there just wasn’t that ensemble cast that is magic sometimes.
Sharon: Yes.
Caitlin: So sorry, Atlanta, but that’s kind of how you feel. Sorry this season. But we still love you and you’re still an amazing franchise. I agree. If you enjoyed this episode, please hit the subscribe button
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