Erin is not allowed to play any more pranks; they don’t land.
In this episode, we discuss Erin Lichy storylines from Real Housewives of New York Season 14:
⚪Erin vs Food ⚪Erin vs Ubah
Sharon: Well, okay, remember, we can just talk and we can always cut stuff out.
Caitlin: Exactly.
Sharon: We can always cut it out.
Caitlin: Cut it out.
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Caitlin: Wait.
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Sharon: Cut it. What’s the it?
Caitlin: Is it just sideways?
Sharon: Cut it out. I don’t know what the it is.
Caitlin: Must just be sideways or up.
Sharon: Was that Joey or Jesse? That was Joey. Yeah, because he was the comedian.
Caitlin: Is he still alive?
Caitlin: Yes.
Caitlin: Danny’s dead. Oh, yeah.
Sharon: He hit his head or whatever.
Caitlin: that’s so sad because I feel like that’s how I’m going to go. Hi, this is Caitlin.
Sharon: And this is Sharon.
Caitlin: And welcome to Real Housewives on Real Housewives, where we unravel Housewives story threads and keep the tea flowing. So, Chicago, hold on to your apples.
Sharon: This week we’re digging into Aaron Lychee from Real Housewives of New York, season 14, the reboot.
Caitlin: The verses this week are Aaron versus food and Aaron versus Uba. So the background information is that Erin has homegirl, which I think is a cute name. She decorates and renovates for clients and for property value. She, has a big, close family from Israel. She was born and raised in Manhattan. She’s married to Abe and they have three kids. So how do we feel about erin based on our first season judgment of her?
Sharon: Overall, I like her.
Sharon: But I think she’s kind of annoying.
Caitlin: So I started out thinking she’d be one of my favorites. I really loved her off the bat. I was like, okay, she’s the mom of the group. I kind of like, like, she’s kind of like bossy, she kind of controls it. And I kind of tend to like that in the house place. And then I just kind of flipped on her. Like, she just got really annoying. Her arguments didn’t make sense, they were kind of rude. And she was holding everyone to standards that didn’t match. And then she’d get mad about stuff and I’m like, that’s not the problem. Get mad about this other thing.
Caitlin: I don’t know, something like there was a big light on her at the beginning and then she just got duller for me. I don’t know what happened.
Sharon: Yeah, it’s because she was taking m too many things too seriously. I think it’s fine if take a couple of things serious, but when it’s everything, it just gets old.
Caitlin: You get to be the person who’s just like, well, you can’t do anything around her because it’s all going to be annoying.
Sharon: Don’t want to make her mad.
Caitlin: Yeah, I do. Think that a lot of people were saying, like, kick her off, I’m done with her.
Sharon: Oh, I don’t think so.
Caitlin: Yeah.
Caitlin: People really didn’t like her. Oh, wow. At the end of the season. But I feel like she just needed. Sometimes first seasons are hard.
Caitlin: And everyone had the same level. Everyone was on the first season together. So it’s like, I do think she just needs another season to work it out.
Sharon: Well, I think she did hold her own, though.
Caitlin: She did.
Sharon: I think she brings a, ah, personality that she does. Makes a good, what do you call it? Counterpoints of other personalities. because she’s a little more mature. So she gets into fights, but she’s not super reactive. Like, she’s more calm. She fights in a calm way. She does.
Caitlin: Yeah. She’s not, like, total dragged down knockout.
Sharon: And I think that can be,
Caitlin: Yeah.
Sharon: So overall, I like her.
Caitlin: She wasn’t my least favorite by any. Oh, no. I think she just kind of ended up in the middle a little bit at the end.
Sharon: She looks just like Jennifer Aniston to me.
Caitlin: Yeah.
Sharon: There were so many times I looked and I was like, I see Jennifer.
Caitlin: Yeah, now that you say that, I can totally see that about. All right, so let’s do Erin versus food. So Erin’s not really an eater. I get the impression she’s a drinker. Do you get that? I feel like that is like the thesis why all the food issues come around here.
Sharon: I feel like New York wouldn’t have actually had a season if everyone was just well fed.
Caitlin: All the problems with food. Which is weird, because when you think of the plethora of probably, like, caterers and different genres of food. And it should not have been this hard to feed everybody this.
Sharon: I know.
Caitlin: And these women don’t look like they eat a ton.
Caitlin: I know.
Sharon: Exactly.
Caitlin: Just need a little bit of sustenance. So she got involved in cheesegate with Brynn because Erin told everyone that si said that cheese was weird. Even just saying it sounds, Then. So my friend JD on Instagram pointed out that cheese was like its own housewife. This season.
Sharon: It is.
Caitlin: Then she has a caviar caterer come when she has everybody in her house. But uba doesn’t like caviar.
Caitlin: Okay.
Sharon: That is she. I was looking like, no, surely she doesn’t literally just have caviar, but if.
Caitlin: It looks good, she really literally does caviar.
Sharon: Dud.
Caitlin: It was a dud. I mean, the whole. I think she makes weird food choices and maybe is one of those people that can’t see how much you need for a party.
Sharon: Okay. You know me. I make way too much for a party, and I have way too many choices, because for me, if someone was hungry or left hungry, I would just feel embarrassed, mortified, and, the worst hostess ever.
Caitlin: And it’s also funny to me, like, in the city that never sleeps or even up in the Hamptons. Was it really that hard if your guests were complaining they were hungry to bring in more? Like, okay, we’ll just call some local restaurant and be like, hey, bring in some thai food. I don’t understand why this was all.
Sharon: That uber eats, man.
Caitlin: It’s like, she was just like, this is what we’re having, and I will not change courses for anyone. Okay, so you love pringles. Remember they put the caviar on the pringle. Would you eat caviar on a pringle?
Caitlin: Okay.
Sharon: I’ve never had caviar, but my understanding, is it’s salty. Is that what we determined? It’s salty?
Caitlin: Yes.
Caitlin: Because the only thing I can think of is, like, you know, the little fish eggs on top of, like, sushi?
Caitlin: Yeah.
Caitlin: That’s the closest I’ve come to caviar.
Sharon: I would eat it, but just to get to the pringle.
Caitlin: Yeah.
Caitlin: Here’s what I don’t understand. Salty and the pringle. Salty. Why would you put two salts together?
Sharon: Because more salt, the better.
Caitlin: Did they also put, like, sour cream or something? Was that the one? Sour cream, maybe so you know what.
Sharon: I noticed this season? They would say stuff like, low high, high, low. Like, it’s like a pringle with caviar.
Caitlin: Right?
Sharon: It’s like a high low.
Caitlin: Yeah, I guess we got to balance our high lows.
Caitlin: More.
Sharon: I think that’s, like, the cool thing to do.
Caitlin: Yeah, I guess.
Sharon: See, we do it naturally because we’re not rich. Right.
Caitlin: Just found out that people with less money are actually more fun than they thought. It’s really fun.
Sharon: They have these chips called pringles. Let’s put caveats. They’re actually not real chips because they’re pressed together, so they’re potato knew that.
Caitlin: That’s awesome. But, like, Uba has to go to provisions. Well, then it’s closed.
Sharon: The provisions was cracking me up where she’s like, I need provisions.
Caitlin: Everyone was starving around Erin. I don’t understand. And then she was going to make the shashuka for breakfast, but she couldn’t because Jenna didn’t want to eat before she worked out, which I do, actually. Understand. But again, that didn’t mean you couldn’t make again. This is the weird thing with Erin. It’s like everybody has to eat the same thing. What’s that about?
Sharon: Oh, you know what? You’re right.
Caitlin: If her kids turn out to be picky at all, she’s going to have a problem. Will you not serve one person something different? Because it’s a growing up thing she had. Everyone eats the same thing.
Sharon: And I understand the shake shuka you want, like, the egg. You do.
Caitlin: But Janet could have eaten hers later.
Sharon: I would have eaten mine later.
Caitlin: Yeah.
Sharon: It would just been a little more cooked and.
Caitlin: Or she could just not. But I mean, like, either way. Or she could have again. She was acting like there was no other food in the world. Like, could you just set out a bowl of cereal for the people that were hungry? and then plan to make the shishuka after? If you’re going to make it after, but don’t wait 4 hours.
Sharon: She wanted the shikshuka.
Caitlin: Yeah.
Sharon: Nobody wanted to.
Caitlin: She wanted to share something.
Sharon: I’m sure someone else would.
Caitlin: That’s what I don’t understand. Uba would have or have the brunch and move the trainer back. He gets to be on tv. He’ll probably come later.
Sharon: Or have shakshuka for lunch. Exactly. I wonder what they had for lunch.
Caitlin: I don’t remember. I don’t know. Well, did they end up having the shashuka for lunch or was it dinner?
Sharon: Oh, did they end up eating?
Caitlin: They ended up eating it. But it was eating it. I’m having all kinds of trouble conjugating today. They had it, but they had it later. But then Psy was mad about it too, because she has a whole other issue with food. Her issues make a little more sense. But then she also just eats and drinks tiny food. She calls Jessel’s wine event bad because she calls it, like two buck Chuck.
Sharon: Oh, yeah.
Caitlin: She’s really judgy about the food. And then she also just doesn’t take the time to care about the food. Everyone complained about their knobbing in a food at Erin’s anniversary. Vow renewal, especially psy.
Sharon: That is a huge. Especially when it’s sponsored.
Caitlin: Yeah.
Sharon: You know, you’re paying. Maybe she couldn’t find a food.
Caitlin: Like, I wonder if caviar and a french fries. Yeah.
Caitlin: Okay.
Caitlin: Who wins in Aaron versus food?
Caitlin: Aaron loses.
Caitlin: Aaron loses. Huge. No. And food is sad.
Sharon: Yeah. I will never forget. Stephanie and I talk about all the time. We went to this party and the girl was on ideal protein. So she only served cut up green peppers, and it was dinner time.
Caitlin: It was the worst of the peppers, too.
Sharon: Yeah, exactly. The cheapest peppers with some cheese. And we were starving. And as soon as we left, we got out of there. We’re like, let’s go to McDonald’s. We talk about this like, 15 years later. This is, seriously, people remember the food.
Caitlin: Choices that you make. It’s not a joke.
Sharon: At least we do.
Caitlin: You do, and Sai does, you know, cy does. I mean, do you think they made it a bigger deal just for Sai’s comedic effect? Like, it was the one thing that made Sai a little bit funny.
Sharon: I do. It was sort of mean to separate Uba also.
Caitlin: Yeah.
Sharon: It wasn’t just psy.
Caitlin: No, it wasn’t just psy. And that’s where I think.
Sharon: That’s where I think it was, like.
Sharon: Legit complaint.
Caitlin: Next season, she’s going to have just, like, those giant platters from Costco, like, rolls and sandwiches.
Sharon: You know, I hate charcuterie.
Caitlin: Yeah, I do.
Sharon: I would. I actually think charcuterie would be a good choice for Erin. Might be a good, because it would give more options than M. Just caviar.
Caitlin: Yes, that’s true. All right, let’s go on Erin versus Uba, because this one is kind of. It’s both fun now, but when I watched it, I was so annoyed by it.
Sharon: I know.
Caitlin: Okay, so the background information is that this is the worst Nancy Drubook ever. The case of the missing phone. So Erin loves pranks. She’s a prankster. She grew up pranking her brother. They were pranking Kathy.
Sharon: they were so funny. Yeah, like Kathy Hilton.
Caitlin: She loves a good prank. So Uba pushes her into the pool in. Oh, gosh, we can’t pronounce this again. Anguila as a joke. And Erin was, like, biting her. Time to reciprocate. Okay, how do you feel about pranks? Because people feel very one way or.
Sharon: The other about pranks for the most part. I don’t like them.
Caitlin: Yeah.
Caitlin: Okay.
Sharon: Pranks, I don’t like m. Okay. When I. One time my freshman year, I came back from, it was like April Fool’s day, and Michelle had cut the whole room in half with tape, like, everything. And she wrote, sharon, stay on your side of the room. And everything was divided in two. And that was like, a funny prank.
Sharon: And then the funny thing is she’s laughing and she gets on her computer, and there’s a big picture of a foot because she hates feet. So I got her, too. So that kind of stupid stuff, it’s stupid and it’s quick.
Caitlin: Yes.
Caitlin: And quick, I think, is the point. Yes, I agree. Because.
Caitlin: Okay.
Caitlin: I don’t like when people’s feelings are hurt, and I don’t want anybody to get hurt.
Caitlin: Yes.
Caitlin: But it actually turns out that I do like pranks more than I thought. And I kind of thought about, like, I kind of grew up with pranks. Like, my mom used to have, like, a little prank tackle box. But again, it’s like, harmless pranks. Like, we had fake melting ice cream, and we’d go to someone’s house and we’d put it in front of their fridge. Okay, so Erin has Uba’s phone because. Okay, but here’s the other thing that drives me crazy. Uba left it in the car. It is not like Erin stole it from her purse.
Sharon: Yes.
Caitlin: Took it from her room. So she ended up with the phone because the driver gave it to Erin.
Caitlin: Si.
Caitlin: Saw it happen.
Caitlin: Uh-huh.
Caitlin: It’s not like it was completely isolated. And Uber doesn’t even notice it’s missing until much later. So she’s so angry because Erin took her phone and her family checks in, and she’s single. And I do understand all that, and I do think safety is important. Anything checking in is important.
Sharon: I actually thought that was a little.
Caitlin: She was overdramatic and she went hours missing it. What if it had been in the car, it hadn’t gotten back to Erin, and it was driving around the island somewhere. She could still be like, right again. You didn’t.
Sharon: Well, but I guess what she’s saying is.
Caitlin: But it took her hours to notice it was missing, but then it had.
Sharon: To be missing for longer.
Caitlin: Right.
Sharon: Well, I guess what she. Okay, I, think it’s more this. I think it’s more when you lose your phone.
Sharon: You have a sense of panic.
Caitlin: Oh, absolutely.
Sharon: That comes over you. So I think it’s just that she had to panic at all.
Caitlin: Maybe.
Caitlin: I think Erin should have had a solution, and the solution wasn’t to hang onto it all night. Yeah. So I think the solution needed to be, at some point, say, like, to sigh, hey, ask Uba where her phone is. And then Uba’s like, oh, gosh, I can’t find it. And then Erin’s like, aha, I’ve had it or something.
Sharon: But I kind of did think Uba was being a little overdramatic about the checking in thing. Because you’re right. If her phone was in the car.
Sharon: And she didn’t check mean, I don’t like.
Sharon: Nothing would have happened, right? I mean, her family would have been like, oh, she’s not answering.
Caitlin: And ultimately you got the phone back. You did get to call your family. So even though you didn’t like it and you could be like, dude, that hurt my feelings, and it wasn’t funny.
Caitlin: I do think it sort of ends there. But instead, the breakfast was awkward. Brynn was like, mommy and daddy are fighting. I think Uba overreacted.
Sharon: Yeah, I think Uba overreacted. However, I understand the phone panic feeling.
Caitlin: I think so, too.
Sharon: So I’m a little torn about this one.
Caitlin: No, I felt panicked.
Sharon: I feel like Uba did really had. No, she’s acting like she had repercussions when she didn’t. Like, she’s acting like it was worse than it was.
Caitlin: I never would have gone that long without noticing mine was missing, though. Like, if I got into the house, I would have immediately, fairly immediately been like, did I take it out of the car? Is it in my purse?
Sharon: Yeah.
Caitlin: Not, that I’m saying she deserves it because of that, but I’m just.
Sharon: You’re saying she lost it anyway. She lost it anyway.
Caitlin: Is it really her fault that erin’s the one who had it? I guess. I don’t know. She pranked herself in a way.
Sharon: Don’t blame the.
Caitlin: Like.
Caitlin: Okay.
Caitlin: I think what Brynn said is that the punishment doesn’t match the crime between uba and Erin and the cell phone gate. And I think that’s part of it. So uba thought they were in the clear because sigh pushed uba in the pool.
Caitlin: But erin didn’t push her in the pool. And erin joked like, oh, sigh’s my minion. But also, it’s like they weren’t even. And I guess uba thought they were even, and maybe that’s another reason that she was annoyed.
Sharon: Sounds like a middle school I know sleepover argument.
Caitlin: Because I try to m untie it. So then they get these cute little jeeps on the island. Uba steals Aaron’s sunglasses, but she does it in a really aggressive way. And I think that that’s the problem. She’s going to keep them for 45 minutes because that’s how long Jenna had hers. So it’s like an eye for an eye.
Sharon: Or Aaron, you mean?
Caitlin: Oh, yeah.
Sharon: Okay. I actually found the whole keep it for 45 minutes really funny. That part. Totally. I thought it was so immature that she did it, but that part made me laugh. Like, the 45 minutes.
Caitlin: Because it’s 45 minutes.
Sharon: It’s like, it’s in, like when you take your kids toys, right?
Caitlin: You’re like, this is how long it’s in time out for. My favorite part, though, is when they go back to the. I think it was back to where they were staying. And then uba, who says, like, I never lose my phone. I never leave it out of my sight. And she left it in the car a second time. I mean, stop blaming Eric.
Sharon: Like, you can’t keep track of your stuff.
Caitlin: She does seem like she just loses. And then it turned. Like, then it’s like they had to pause the argument and go find the phone again. Anyway, they have a conversation. Erin says, uba, you take it too far. And Uba says, erin’s like a pot stir, but they can move on. And then they pretend they’re still mad at each other again. They kind of seem like maybe they’re so upset at each other because they’re cut out of a similar cloth. M like they’re both kind of uptight. They both kind of like being in charge.
Sharon: I didn’t think of it that way, but you’re right.
Caitlin: Like, pranks, except when they’re turned on.
Caitlin: That. Exactly.
Caitlin: So I think that’s part of it.
Caitlin: Okay.
Caitlin: Who do we think wins in Aaron versus Uba?
Sharon: I think we’re going to disagree here, because I want to say uba.
Caitlin: I think it’s Erin.
Caitlin: Yay.
Sharon: We disagree.
Caitlin: Yeah. No, I just felt like Erin took more of the.
Caitlin: I just. Uba.
Caitlin: I just wish she hadn’t acted like a baby. Otherwise, I would have given it to her. I didn’t like the.
Sharon: She wouldn’t let it go.
Caitlin: She was like a dog with bone. Yeah. Her dog with sunglasses. You know, when your dog takes your sunglasses, they won’t let them go. It was like, a little bit like that. I just felt like she just needed to let it, like, she just needed to say, because she was like, it was a safety thing. It wasn’t funny. She had it too long. Erin did apologize, and then she was like, it’s like they were done for the day. I guess I felt bad for everybody else. They were done with it, and then we had to take this whole fairly stupid argument into the next day and into the bar and into the. Driving around in little cars, and it kind of made everybody pissy at everybody.
Sharon: Yeah, the whole mood was ruined. Too long. Yeah, it got too serious.
Caitlin: It got too serious for what it was, exactly.
Caitlin: Just accessories?
Sharon: Yeah. No, your phone is like an appendage it is.
Caitlin: It’s my appendage. I don’t know why I would say that anyways. Like my phone, I’d probably part of your bit. Yeah, but I wouldn’t have left it in a car for a couple of hours. It’s all insane.
Sharon: Knock on wood. You never know.
Caitlin: What?
Caitlin: No, it’s true.
Caitlin: You’re going to hide my phone.
Sharon: I will report back in a week. no. Anytime I lose it, I’m going to blame you.
Caitlin: David will be like, she’s been so mad the whole time in the house thinking it was you, and you haven’t even been here.
Sharon: I’ll be like, I think Sharon took my phone.
Caitlin: All right, well, that is our episode of Erin, so that really wraps up our New York episodes, except if you want to go on our patreon and join, you can see, see, or hear, I guess, the, yearbook episode of New York, which is really fun. It’s where we go through different categories and say who won what and who gets awarded which title from the season. anyway, so that’s New York. We’ll be heading on to Salt Lake next and Ultimate Girls trip and some books and crappie or crappy Lake. Crappy. Yep, let’s stick with crappy. I like it better. All right, remember house size. Bring the drama, will you?
Sharon: Bring the receipts.
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